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The Soul Has A Download Button | Episode # 212

• Yvette Mayer • Season 3 • Episode 212

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A corporate publishing executive in London doesn’t usually end up teaching people how to access the Akashic Records, but Sam Lennie’s story makes the path feel surprisingly logical. We talk through the real turning points: burnout, a “bridge job,” and the morning she woke up hearing a clear instruction to study reflexology. From there, her work expands into Reiki, mentoring, and a deeper trust in spirit-led decision-making, including the leap from Sydney to the Sunshine Coast and the feeling of “this is it” in her body.

We slow down and get practical about the Akashic Records: what they are, how a reading works, what kind of information comes through, and why Sam doesn’t treat it like a psychic prediction tool. The focus stays on clarity, healing, and the present moment, because that’s where sovereignty is built. If you’re tired of outsourcing your next move to experts, algorithms, or other people’s opinions, this conversation offers a different kind of guidance, one that strengthens your self-trust muscle over time.

We also connect the dots to Human Design and marketing. Sam shares how Human Design can feel like confirmation of who you already are, and why choosing the right platform matters for an aligned personal brand. We end with a grounded look at Substack as a calmer marketing channel for long-form writing, community, and growth that doesn’t require constant social media intensity.

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Welcome And Show Purpose

SPEAKER_01

Hi, hi! Welcome to the Human Design for Marketing podcast. I'm your host, Yvette Mayer, and this show is for you if you're done with cookie-cutter marketing and ready to build your personal brand in alignment with who you really are. I'm a marketing expert, human design nerd, and intuitive business coach who's helped hundreds of women just like you to elevate their frequency and activate their most magnetic personal brand. Each week we'll dive into practical tips, interviews, conversations, and more to help you create an aligned business, a positive contribution, and of course, an abundant life. Let's dive in. Hello and welcome back to the Human Design for Marketing podcast. This week I am coming in with an extra special guest, Sam Lenny. Hi Sam, how are you?

SPEAKER_00

Welcome. Hey, Yvette. I'm really well, thank you. Thank you for inviting me. I'm very excited about this.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, well, I'm sure that the conversation is going to be really rich and a lot of value to the listeners' lives. I will introduce you if that's okay. Sure. Yeah. So Sam is in my client world. She's in sold-out office by design. But more importantly, she is a healer and a guide. She uh channels, she works with the spirit team, she reads Akashe Records, she does work one-on-one. She has an incredible story of walking out of a corporate publishing career and ultimately, that was in the UK, by the way, ultimately

Meet Sam And Her Big Pivot

SPEAKER_01

finding herself in her latter life, letter, let's just call midlife, in the Sunshine Coast in Australia. She is a manifesting generator, sacral, six two, interestingly, cross of healing, which you like, you just can't make this stuff up, right? With gate 25 in her personality son. And we're just talking off air about how we've both got an open head and open ajna, but together we bridge that for each other. So hey, we're gonna bring all of the thinking and the critical thinking skills are gonna come through on this episode. And I can yeah, I can also borrow your throat center, although mine is turned on with Uranus in Gatewin at the moment. Um no, I'm really looking forward to getting into this. So we'll we'll we'll traipse through. I I'd really love to talk about your journey from corporate uh into the work you do today. Uh we'll also get into you know the the big pivots in your life that have led you to where you are now, what you're working on and how you're helping and supporting others in this iteration of your life. And also now that you're on the roof.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Oh sorry, off the roof.

SPEAKER_00

You can be a little bit younger if you like. I'm I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, okay. All right, fine. So you're yes, you're you're newly into your proper role model era. So I'd love to explore that with you. Uh, but to get started with, I would love to hear the story of how you went from a publishing exec in London to channeling the Akashic Records, living on the Sunshine Coast in Australia. Um, walk me through that and the moment that kind of cracked you open to such a huge change.

SPEAKER_00

Sure, sure. Well, it's quite a long story, and there's been various reinventions during that. But I was working in London, then I was working, I was headhunted and worked in Suffolk for a publishing company. And during that time, it was um, I guess, like many of my clients, it was a pivotal moment in that I knew I didn't want to do corporate anymore. I was tired, I was, you know, had done the the eight till six and traversing up and down on the train to London. And then I went to, as I say, went to Suffolk, which is on the bubble side of the UK. So nice, beautiful countryside, but that that didn't work out very well at all. So it wasn't long after that um situation where I left and

The Reflexology Calling Moment

SPEAKER_00

basically left with not a lot to do. And I remember thinking, oh my goodness, you know, what am I gonna do my time? I spent a bit of time with my husband who has runs his own business.

SPEAKER_01

And in the interim, I got a retail job and was weekends and just doing more joyful, less thinking, more Yeah, I love that, like a transitional space where you're just open to what life is bringing you.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, absolutely. And then I had um an epiphany. So it was in um 2013, and I woke up one morning and I could hear myself saying, I'm gonna study to be a reflexologist, I'm gonna study to be a reflexologist. And I'm thinking, where even did this come from?

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

I had had had reflexology sessions to um regulate my menstrual cycle, and which was on recommendation for a from a friend who was going through fertility treatment. So I obviously was aware of reflexology, and I was thinking, well, that's you know, completely left field. Where even did that come from? And so I would had just such an inner knowing, and I got onto the internet and I trawled through various um, you know, healing schools, diplomas, etc. And I managed to find one in London and it was running over the weekends, so Saturdays and Sundays every week, and I was just like, boom, I'm in, put my name down and went for it. And I was thinking, well, how am I gonna do this with my retail job, which is clearly weekend for weekend work because that's what retail is? Yeah, I went into my boss and I said, Look, I I want to do this, um, but it's weekends and you know, I want to do it. So basically, I was it was a fate accomplished. It's like this is what's happening, and he was like, Oh, this is fine.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so does that mean your days just had to change at your recharge old?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah. So they changed. Um, and I went and did um a few months of basically training, and I you have to do a hundred hours of treatments, and you learn pathology and physiology as well, and you have to get a diploma in that. And so you do the the manual stuff with the app, you know, the physical application, and you have to go and get a hundred treatments, and ten of those pe have to be people that have um of various treatments, so you can take them through, like an asthma or um you know, some kind of air ailments and whatever. So it was absolutely fascinating, and I absolutely flew through this, got all of my hundred treatments done way before the the class.

SPEAKER_01

Your sacral was on fire, following the light.

SPEAKER_00

So much energy for it, and I flew through and I got they actually put me in for the the exam before everyone else because I'd got this far. And it turns out that you know you already get going, so you've got your neighbors having treatments and friends and whatever, and I basically had a a set of people that were having treatments from me and they were cooking for me and that, so we're just doing these little contracts, right? And then I had a client base as soon as I was certified.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's incredible.

SPEAKER_00

And I was and I just flew, uh absolutely flew, and this was during the UK over the UK at this time, and then that was 2013, 2014, and then 2015. Um, my husband and I moved here, moved to Australia, and that was it. So I left all my clients, went to Sydney and restarted the business in Sydney.

SPEAKER_01

And at that point, just to go back a second, were you was everything in person and yes, you yeah, so you had a an in-person network and a client base, so it wasn't something you could pick up and take with you.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, it wasn't, and I didn't know anyone in Sydney, had no there's nobody, just um Den knew a a handful of people, but I knew nobody, knew nobody.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, so brave.

SPEAKER_00

We moved into the in the July, we finally got a rental in September, and that was it. I started there, got my ABN, and and off I went. So yeah, that that was the the foray into what I do now and the theme for what I do now,

Rebuilding After The Move To Australia

SPEAKER_00

and then I picked up Reiki in 2017, Reiki Masters, and that was people were actually switching between Reiki and Reflexology, but reflexology is as popular in Australia as it is in Europe and in the UK, so naturally picked up more of the Reiki, you know, and then we I was doing coaching amongst that as well because obviously people come for an ailment, but we want to know what's beneath the ailment, and yeah, so that that really developed into a coaching and mentoring piece. And then in 2019, I caught an impulse. Um, Den and I were having a few challenges um relationship-wise, we were sort of cool to really think about what we wanted to do moving forward. Sydney's expensive, and oh yeah, no, we were just like, Yeah, what do we do?

SPEAKER_01

We lived in Roselle at that point around the corner from where I lived at that point. Oh no, I was actually in New York. I got back in 2016. Were you still there? Uh yes, I was. 2016, 2017. I was I was back.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was in Roselle at that time. Wow, that's so interesting. And so 2019 came, we had a few challenges, we um ironed a few things out and just decided that we were gonna move. And I'd it's just I I follow spirit's lead always. Yeah. And I was invited to a marketing weekend in on the Gold Coast. And this marketing um weekend was um female, female-owned um market um business, marketing business thing. Anyway, so everybody in the room was female, were women, and there were hairdressers and beauticians and you know, women y, beautiful women um energy, woman energy. And I got sat next to the only other Brit in the room.

SPEAKER_02

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And I said to her, so we got chatting, and we there was lots of common ground anyway. I said, Where do you live? She said, The Sunshine Coast. I said, Where's the Sunshine Coast? She said, Oh, well, it was all very new to you at that point. I said, Gold Coast, Brisbane, yeah, yeah, yeah. Know what they are. The Sunshine Coast existed. Yeah. Oh, come up. She said, Come up for the weekend and we all get together and we'll go out for dinner and whatever. Anyway, so we drew we we came up, got a bought, um, hired a car so we could drive around. And as soon as I got to Maruchi Airport, we that plane landed. I was like, Right, we're here. This is where we're gonna your next next time.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you had such a strong, you've got the gate 57 as well, so your intuitive powers are they're embedded, and you can hear that in everything that you talk about. It's like this instinct, this natural knowing.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yes, and and we were it was just incredible. It's like every feeling in my body, every bone in my body was shouting, yes, yes, yes, yes. Anyway, so we we went to hers and we had this brilliant time, and we drove up and down the the coast in this car looking for properties because you know we knew that we were in this transition phase anyway, and then we found a place up in Noosa that had not gone up for rent yet, so it hadn't gone up on real estate, and so there was there was no sign or anything. There must have been a I don't know how we found that. There must have been a sign outside, anyway. Oh no, actually, it had just gone online, but they hadn't had any openings. We drove round to the real estate agent and we went, Don't put it up, we want it, we want and they were like, Oh, just looked as if we were like crazy, like you're in Noosa, everybody wants a property, who do you think you are? kind of thing. But I was just anyway, so she said they said come back on the Monday. So before we got the flight back to Sydney, we drove around there on on the Monday morning, and they stole, have you got a couple of hours? We're busy. We went, No, we haven't. We need to get ready to get out of the time is off so we can get on the plane. Anyway, as soon as we got back to to Sydney, the forms and everything had come through, and then we moved to week later.

SPEAKER_01

And are you still in the same place?

SPEAKER_00

No, I was gonna say that would be really insane. We're in the hinterland now, but we have moved um twice since.

SPEAKER_01

I love, I love that hinterland. It's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

I dreamt I had a meditation before we left the UK. I was in meditation and I visualized this room. So when we crossed it, and I again stumbled across it. I said, Den, we're moving. No, no, I don't want to move. I said, I can't stand moving anymore. I went, no, we're moving. Something was just calling me. Found this place immediately, and the moment we walked in, I walked into this room, and I was just like had this like sliding door moment.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, oh yeah, like I visualized it.

SPEAKER_00

I just arrived. It and this place had been up for sale in the July, and many, many people have come through here, various offers and stuff, and it hadn't gone, and then we came in in the September and it waited for us. So we came in the September. Wow, just signed off. So what year was that? That was 2023, 23.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so it's been three years.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, so we signed the contract on 1111.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, well, you you know, you in angel numbers they seem to be a thing.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_01

I'd love to hear more about how you've cultivated your relationship to spirit because you know it's it's a less traditional path, especially when your career began in corporate, to be at this place now where where you will confidently say that you trust spirit to guide you. How has that unfolded for you?

SPEAKER_00

So when I was much younger, you know, as a child, I was definitely had, you know, visions, could hear, see, feel. And then when you when and anybody that listens to this has had children's pregnant, may well attest to this, but when you're pregnant or when you've got young children, spirit, no, it's like you're more open and more. And so when my kids were younger, the the house that we lived in at PeBid Property in the UK, it'd been in the same family forever, and

Learning To Trust Spirit’s Lead

SPEAKER_00

we were the first family to purchase this outside of the family. Anyway, they would hide the boys' PJs and all sorts, and it was very funny, it wasn't at all eerie and whatever. And so that was quite a point in time, and I felt like really sort of like woken up at that point. Then, you know, there was many issues with I divorced, lots of things happened between um then and me getting to here, and so it wasn't until I got back into it on a more like energetic way, so with Reiki, that I think it I sort of opened back up again, and then during 2019, when I was we'd moved from Sydney, I was traveling back down to Sydney every fortnight to work with my clients, so I was still running that, and then we got to the end of 2019, and the the lady who's um I rented her a room, we finished that off. She said, Oh, I want the room back for January, and of course, as we know, the beginning of 2020 COVID came along, so everything you know went up rather beautifully.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

And then then at that time, I was um I'd I'd I'd got into I was into the Akashic Records in that I had um I'd purchased a book about it many you know years before, but you know, you forget that it's on your Kindle, and then you're like, oh I'm sure I've got one book, and then it just appears out of nowhere again. And I'd also um been following um a beautiful soul in the UK who channels Archangel Metatron, and I was really really drawn to this, and I'm thinking, I don't know why, but I followed the impulse and uh I did I attuned to Archangel Metatron's energy. She does two levels um of attunement, and Archangel Metatron happens to be the archangel that oversees is the gatekeeper of the Akashic Records.

SPEAKER_01

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, okay, so we've now got the link. So as soon as that came, everything kind of came together, the puzzle pieces came together, and I got really into it in the same way that the reflexology came along. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So as soon as I started reading for myself, I dig the book back out. I didn't even finish that book, it was Linda Howe, H O W E, Linda Howe's book. I was already flying with my own my own channeling, and then immediately because again COVID, I wasn't going, well, I wasn't going back to to Sydney. Yeah, everything was shut down.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, I just come alive with this opportunity to read for people, and it just for those that haven't experienced the Akashic Records before, can you tell us a bit more about what reading the Akashic Records looks like and what you could expect in a session and actually what could come out of a session?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so the Akashic Records are your um soul's library. So we obviously on a soul level, we're omnipresent, we're um you know the soul lands in this body and walks around in in this suit. So everything that the soul has ever experienced, will experience, will be written in the Akashic Records. So it's the metaphysical library of the soul, past, present, future. And so by I go into the Akashic Records with a pathway prayer. So it's a simple prayer, you can go in via meditation, anyone can do it, everyone's got the skills, everyone's a soul, so we can all do this. And I go in with the pathway prayer, and if I'm reading for myself, I go in with my name, so I'm attuning to the frequency of what my name is, and you can ask

Akashic Records Explained Simply

SPEAKER_00

anything in your Akashic records once you're there, and when you get there, you get this sense you know that you're not here in the 3D anymore. There's this I always liken it to a feeling of feeling very loved and very at home, and so once you're there, you can literally ask anything as long as it pertains to you. Obviously, you can't open the records for someone else without their permission or whatever, but you're seeing it from um your own perspective. So you can use it to get clarity, direction, healing. Um, the cash records are a place of healing. But it's it's very good for getting direction and clarity because human us humans want to know how you know what's going to happen next week, next month, and whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But because the records aren't, you know, we're not working in linear time, we're working in quantum, everything's available. What we might believe is a past life if we're talking in human terms, is actually another life. It, you know, it's happening somewhere else. So a whole, you know, there is an infinite amount of information available. And I always say to people the first question that I always recommend you ask when you go in there is what do I need to know in this moment for my highest potential and in my highest favor? And I'm always asking that question first because then you're not, you know. You're not thinking about the question you've got, which is related to some mental thing that's going on in life. It's sort of more expansive. So yeah, it's it you'll you'll always get what you need in this very moment, not which is that very step. You won't get two, three, four, and five. And you certainly won't get, you know, what's the the end point, what the destination. The destination is here and now. Everything only ever happens in the here and now. So it's it slows you down, um, it brings you home to yourself, you know, the the true essence of who you are. Um, it is I use it as a confidant um and as just a true guide, really. My my um spirit guides are the the gatekeepers, if you like, and that would be the same with anybody that I open, you know, anyone else's records, it would be their guides and my guides as well. So there are many ways of opening the records. That's my way. That's when the information comes through, it comes through clairvoyantly, um, clairsentiently, and clair audiently, um, depending on who the sitter is, and depending on how, you know, if they're very expressive, I'll get lots of words. They're like, shout at me. Whereas if they're more kind of like creative and they um, you know, more visual people, then I'll probably get more of a visual visual. So it comes through like a video screen. Like if you imagine like theatre curtains opening and you get like an establishing shot, and then it starts to move, and I'll just follow um what I'm being given and just channel that through for them.

SPEAKER_01

So when you because I haven't had my Akashic Records read, when you say you're reading the records, like is it a book? What are you reading?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so traditionally speaking, you know, as from a sacred perspective, um, the Akashic records are seen as a library, you know. And if you meditate, um, a lot of people, if they meditate and they ask their guides to take them to the records, they'll see a temple and they'll see a library of books, and they'll, you know, be taken to a book and they can open the book and they'll read the book. So that's quite a um popular way of of inter seeing the records, interpreting it and it, you know, reading from there. I have never seen it like that. Um, for me, the records are like filaments of light. Um and so when I not so much anymore because it's like as soon as I think of the akushic records I'm already in, it's it's you know, it's such a normal thing. But for me, if I'm I would tend to feel like I'm I've like been stretched exponentially, I want to say, but also feeling very centered. And as I read, I I just see like filaments of light, and then the the images sort of travel on those filaments of light. That's the only way I can describe it.

SPEAKER_01

That's real, I mean, it's wonderful to hear, and it's also like uh my practical brain is like, what? I mean, to me it sounds like you're getting intuitive downloads. Yes, yes. However, there's obviously a link to this body of sacred, is there a sacred text or there's what qualifies it as an Akashic record? I know I'm not pronouncing that 100% right.

SPEAKER_00

What qualifies it as an Akashic record? That's a very good question. Um it's just a knowing. I can't explain something that you can't, there's no words for it. It's just a knowing, and you know, and I teach people how to open their own Akashic records, and the and what what is the most interesting thing is when you get into there, you already know this information. So there's already your intuition's already firing off and going, I know that, I know that, I know that, I know that like so you know, yes, the the Akashic records, as my guides have described, it's in the seventh dimension and beyond. But actually, we're all dimensions, right? We're omnipresent, all is one. So, you know, I guess our human brain has to kind of give it some kind of like um, you know, not separation, but it need needs to sort of space.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it needs to meet the physical plane, is in like when you're like, What can I touch it? Can I download it? And I don't mean like in my consciousness, I mean can I press a button?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it, you know, and it because it's the soul's record, your soul is here. You can add it to your heart center and get all of the information. It's just that um, you know, part of me does really debunk this uh this oh, you know, you've got to go up to this dimension, or you've got to go to that, and you've got to read from here. And if you're not up here, then you're not reading. We've we've we've moved through a very you know, decades or whatever of this sense of we've made it very difficult to be able to access our own data. It's our own data. The soul just borrowed the body, the soul's here, yeah, also over here, and it's over here, and it's doing this bit over here. You know, if you astral travel and do things in in the background of your life, you'll you know, you'll know all about how this feels. But it's none none of what we're told is really true, it's not because yeah, yet we're up, we are the all that is and and the essence. Um, so yeah, it's but when I to when I do teach people and I said look, this this is the prayer, and I want you to sit in the in your frequency as you've gone through this prayer, and they go, I say, well, you know, now explain how you feel, and you know, the common common feedback is I feel very calm, I feel very clear, I feel very at peace, I feel like nothing's in the way, and I feel like you're probably feeling yourself in the most purest space, and you know, I've done many different healings and modalities, and you know, traveling here, there and everywhere with um, you know, sort of galactic travel and you know, but it's it's all here, yeah. Really out there, it's it's all here. You just have to choose to choose to invite yourself into that and and receive what is received in that moment given that intention.

SPEAKER_01

So it's funny when I was talking to you, I'm like, you know, can't I just get something when I click a button? And what I'm hearing is yes, there is actually there is actually a download button. And you can click uh and you know, metaphysically, you can click the download button and download the records.

SPEAKER_00

You absolutely can. You absolutely can. It's just your your will, you know, like um what do I what do I want to know? But it the the real issue is the trust piece. It's like this this information, this guidance, this assistance, and now what am I gonna do with it? Am I just gonna leave it there and look at it and you know tell it how it is, or I'm actually gonna pick it up and and walk with it? Because you know, a lot of times what the information that you're given doesn't necessarily make sense in the moment, but it might do in two weeks, three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, because it's they're not it's not a tool for um you know, it's not a prediction tool, it's not a forecast tool, really. Although, you know, people I think there are expectations from people, it's like, oh, you know, I'm going to a psychic reader, so I want to know what's happening next for my best mate, and you know, who am I gonna meet at at that place there in a month's time, or should I should I go on holiday in six months? Is that just go on holiday, just go on holiday? Don't ask me, you clearly want to go. Yeah, just finding ways to avoid the thing that you really want to do. Because if you're if you're saying you really want to go on holiday, you know it's in your Akashic records, you know it's written, but you wouldn't be saying it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, something else.

SPEAKER_00

You're you're literally drawing from your field all times, so you cannot get it wrong. If you're saying, Oh, I'm not sure whether to go to Mexico next month or to go to Paris, is that we'll do either because they're both correct.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Or they wouldn't be seeds that you have the ability to sow. But tell me, um, I know this is just one of the modalities you work with. You're so many Jen. You are qualified in many. What would you would what would you say um is your unique flavour? Like, how do you bring all these different modalities together? Or or if that's not a thing, then where do you lean? What's your like go-to to support clients and what do they come to you looking for generally?

SPEAKER_00

So clients will come to me when they're in a real transition point. So that will generally be empty nester, divorced, looking for the soulmate, wanting to, you know, birth, have children, wanting to birthes. So they're the real the real areas of women's lives where they're gonna make a real fundamental change, they're gonna really change their life and set them onto a different trajectory. So I don't use any one tool, but that is the common theme, and they seem to come to me because I I'm direct, yeah, rounded, practical, empathetic, understanding, loving, and very accepting. So people say to me, I'm not sure how I found you or why I found you, but you just spoke to me, and and

Supporting Women Through Life Transitions

SPEAKER_00

often my my life story, people say to me, I read your life story, and it and there was so much of me in that. So I'm really here to help people to remember who they are beyond the you know, the priorities of looking after children and you know being being there for everyone else, it's now time to be here for you. So a lot of my work is also around regaining this this sense of you're okay to put yourself first. So around self-abandonment or um asking for permission or validation from outside of yourself, so you're coming where with the acoustic records and working on a soul level, there's no doubt that you you will always find who you truly are by using that vehicle to come back to self. I've never found any other modality that does that quite the same. That to me, from my experience, other modalities will will you've got to go outside of yourself and then come back in. So you've gone out, information, and then you've come back in, and then you know it gets translated and you move it. Whereas with the records, you're really firmly and solidly in here, and then you move from there. So it's a smoother, I feel like it's a smoother, um, you know, pathway, there's more truth in it, it's more grounded, and it's just the records are very simple. The in that the messages are straightforward, they're not complex at all. They speak in such truth. Um there's no it's not long-winded, it's not flowery, it's just straight down the line, honest, truth, and authentic. And so when people hear it, they're like, oh yeah, that you know, that's me. And I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, there's something, there's some kind of like there's a catalyst that happens, there's a um transcendence that happens when you when you really know yourself as deeply as you do through your records. Super powerful.

SPEAKER_01

Can I can I reflect something back to you then? Yeah. Uh I asked you about all your modalities and how they work together, and you warped yourself back to the Akashic Records. And that's that tells me a lot about what's important to you. And I don't know that you would have seen that in yourself without me reflecting back to you that this is obviously the thing, at least right now, this work, you see it being the most uh valuable and potentially game-changing for clients. So I'm really, I'm really glad that through this conversation I could share with you that I know you do a lot of things, but I think you need to be actually doing more of this.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting. Thank you for reflecting that. I feel like because it's so normal, it's normalized.

SPEAKER_01

Are you getting it? But it's not at all, by the way. I mean, I'm a deeply spiritual person who's done so many different modalities, and I haven't dabbled with this. And I imagine that 80% of the people listening to this podcast will also not have. And that's why I wanted to keep kind of pressing you because this is how we get the light shine on this type of healing and what's available. And you while we're doing it.

unknown

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you know, is where this is ultimately leading to it. And again, you know, this is not prediction as as we would commonly um say predictions go, but we're when we talk about the sovereignty piece, which is sovereignty and and having self-agency, I've been talking about and been working with clients for probably two, three years, maybe a little bit longer, and it's now become really like apparent. Everyone's talking about it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that language is yeah, it's becoming you quite ubiquitous.

SPEAKER_00

And um, and you know, that means different things to different people. But how how what the way the the Akashic records can support you is that when you practice this like you were practicing yoga every day, or you know, cleaning your teeth or whatever, when you actually do this, you recognize you you connect into your own innate power, and your trust muscle builds, your faith muscle builds, and you recognize that actually you're suddenly able to really make a lot of the decisions that you you felt you couldn't make, and where you would have, like in the first instance, gone and asked somebody else, whether that's a medical professional or holistic practitioner or you know, who whoever it might be, particularly when we're talking about you know your health

Sovereignty And Strengthening Self Trust

SPEAKER_00

and well-being, or um, you know, things about love and you know, you or tend to ask intimate things, yes, the things that are like really deeply emotive. Yeah, we'll we'll tend to not trust ourselves, but when you really start to work with your records, you recognize um you know, because I'm a healer as well, I'm uh you know, come from energy healing as the background, you recognize that we we're really moving beyond now, and I talk about this a lot um to to clients, but we're moving beyond this this feeling that we've got to go and learn a modality. So for me, I went and learned Reiki. Um, because that that was what we did. Well, since being more, you know, everyone's waking up and we're becoming more conscious and whatever, we're working on really understanding now, and I think human design's got a lot to do with this as well, because again, it runs in parallel with the records. What's coming through design and what's being what was channeled through Ra is, you know, we're all channeling the same kind of the danger.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's all coming from. I mean, no matter which spiritual modality you look at, there is incredible overlap. And in fact, human design wouldn't exist if that wasn't true because you couldn't have overlaid those four ancient wisdoms and synthesized it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, exactly. And I feel like what everybody's learning now is that they're they're actually learning their own recipe and they're going, oh, okay, so I I realize now that you know I don't need to channel somebody else's data, somebody else's somebody else's healing modality. I can actually just sit with myself and with my soul, with my soul, with my guides, with my team, and I can just be the straight channel, the pure channel, straight from God consciousness from source, and it comes straight in. And and when we do that often enough, we recognize that actually we've got all the information, everything's here already. Yeah, you know, I we we I do a rest restore, remember, a monthly um healing and meditation in the Akashic Records. And the last months, what came through, what channeled through was I just got these two fingers. And I'm like, why are you giving me two fingers?

SPEAKER_01

And then he they were showing me um if you're just listening to this the way she's turning them around, it's not the bad way. Yeah, just like the hippie, hippie or inverted commas type.

SPEAKER_00

Finger, index finger, and middle finger. So they were showing me, and I then I got like ET, you know, like the film.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Where because they often give me analogies or they'll give me symbolism, or they'll they'll show me, it's like like mediumship, they'll show me things that will help me to understand what they're saying. So I got ET the film, and they were and I could see my fingers lighting up, the tips of them lighting up. And they were they were taking, I could see it in my mind's eye, and they were taking my fingers to my heart center. And I was just channeling this and sharing it with everyone. Go, can you have please? This is the invitation to take these two fingers and just touch your heart center with them and and just observe what happens. And they're like, So I got hot, my fingers got hot, my chest got hot, I just felt expansion. And everybody was doing it, it's silent healing, although we've got a chat space after, so everyone can come in and and talk about how what they found and what they discovered. And then we're like, This is our own energy, this is our own energy. Putting that energy on into our fingers through intention, just growing it, lighting it up, putting it on the heart center, and we're allowing ourselves to feel our own energy on what we can do. It's like you could do this at any time, anytime.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. And in your programs like The Aligned Sovereign, do you teach other people to uh go into their own records? Is that part of the work that you do?

SPEAKER_00

It is for those who want it, for sure. Um some people do, some people don't. Yeah, it it just really there's there's definitely a framework for aligned sovereign, and that is to lead a soul-led sovereign life, you know, to expand into that. And you know, everyone's got a different intention. Um in fact, for the first round, the first tranche of of women that were in there, they both wanted to grow their business. So they already had they had an established business, they had an ABN, they were you know dabbling really, but not really um claiming it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And so we've we've walked through the process of what area is it about them using their soul records to understand what lessons they've brought through to overcome in their business. Because they're they're coming in with different um different agreements and different things that they want to achieve. Um, but it's it is soul led. So not everybody wants to then go back home and open their own records, um, but some do. So if they want to.

SPEAKER_01

So the aligned sovereign, it it can be that, but it's also a coaching program or a mentorship, would you say?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it's definitely a mentorship. Um in Alliance Sovereign is access to all of my resources. So whether that's how to channel your own records, whether that's um you know energetic transmissions, so we can shift. Um, we're not fixing anything, we're just re-re-remembering who we are, um, and just you know, coming back to that that essence of of who that individual is, knowing what it is that they want to be doing going forward. Because, you know, say say they've moved from corporate and they they're opening their own businesses, start starting up, and they're doing the thing that they they generally love already, and they're probably adding to it. So they might be adding you know some healing modalities, they might be adding, you know, other health and wellness things to that, but they've not quite reached that part, so they've got the core of who they are, but they're a little bit lacking in courage as to, oh, I don't not sure if I should go and study that thing to to bolt on. And so we'll go into the records and we'll work why it is that they're attracted to that particular, let's just say, modality for for this um discussion, but they're obviously drawn to it for a reason, and so they'll want to know why they're drawn to it, and and nobody wants to do anything that they think is going to be a waste of time, yeah. You know, they'll be like going between two two um topics or two themes and not sure which one. But I as I say, you will never get any of them wrong, you just just choose one because they both hold the insights, but it'll be packaged up differently depending on which one you choose. But the you know, the insights are the insights, the learnings are the learnings, the you know, the soul wants to come here to express itself in its fullest, so it's gonna find the vehicle to do that no matter which vehicle you choose.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, how interesting. So I know you've also been um interested in human design for years, but uh how do you see these systems complementing each other?

SPEAKER_00

Well, for me, uh human design was super useful from a um an affirming perspective. Sometimes you can't see all of yourself, no matter how many questions you ask, no matter how data you, you know, you speak to to your soul around. And so if the soul will also send you down a route, so it may say go and study human design, it knows that there's gonna be, you know, there's gonna be some kind of catalyst that happens there, some kind of transformation, something that comes through as a result of going down that route. So for me, uh it

Human Design As Deep Confirmation

SPEAKER_00

was incredibly affirming, you know, having having this black sheep energy, being having a lot of challenges through life of not being, you know, being misunderstood, and and combining that that independence and freedom and sort of being one step ahead with also having to stay in the tribe in some way. And so I feel like human design has given me a lot of that experiment, it's given me a lot of answers that I and clarity that I didn't have before, um, for sure. So I guess there's, you know, it's like, oh, I get I can tick that box. That makes sense. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01

So I yeah, it's quite different when you think about it. It's it's almost like um with the records, you're looking for answers in a way. Uh, and with human design, you are you are ultimately answering the question of who am I really? However, it doesn't feel like you're asking a question. It feels like you're having confirmation.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Yes, it it is because you know, you read, you read, uh, you know, you read about your authority, you read about I feel I feel like the 6-2, my my six-two was the most profound, I think, because I already knew that my manifesting generator liked to have fingers in lots of and quite lit me up, even though you know that was quite difficult as a youngster because you were always told to try and stick to one thing, and you were like no word, pickle. But this too, I feel like once once I'd got on, you know, I was got onto the roof, yeah, with the six and the wisdom piece. Um, and that that lined up with my Chiron return as well, which was also like, oh my god, all those wounds. I'm now like recovering and learning and with the world. Um, and then having the two was interesting because as a child, I was really, really shy, very shy, quite quiet, didn't really want to be, didn't want to stand out in the crowd. I would quite happily go into my cave. But then in my sort of teenage years, I was really quite extrovert. I kind of swapped over, and so it's nice to come back to the two and know that that that's a really important part of me is to make sure that have plenty of independent solitude where I'm not disturbed.

SPEAKER_01

You're also nurturing your natural gifts, even if you don't realize you're doing that, right? Yes, yes, and tell me now, you know, since COVID, was it really COVID that took you from doing in-person work mainly into different styles of supporting people?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it was, for sure, for sure. And it was that that opportunity to move from a um, you know, I guess what you would say was a traditional therapy setup, you know, um, to something more um, I want to just want to say cosmic. I and I say cosmic because I discovered that doing distant energy healing, and I also for a time did distant reflexology.

SPEAKER_01

I had a wow, does that work?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I had to see teddy bear.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, cool. Wow, I don't know how energy is amazing, isn't it?

COVID And The Shift Online

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how I convinced those three people that that was but you did, and it worked. It worked, it's amazing. So I feel like that's more uh home to me is to although I you know I still have have um occasionally I have people in into into my therapy room. Um the the being outside of the physical body and and working outside um suits suits my energy better, and it certainly aligns with the acoustic records as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. So now you find yourself with a largely online business. Yes. In terms of the way it's evolved, yes, for sure. Hence our paths have crossed.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I've been following you for a while. Um, I can't say how long. I can't, um, I never really remember time frames, but I do I do remember. I think so. So for me, I I'd reached a point where I was looking for simplicity. And I knew that I was really into human design. I I loved human design. And I think I saw a post of yours around human design for marketing, and that that was the marketing piece. I was like, okay, if I can there's gotta be something here, yeah. It's if I can simplify the back end, you know. I have I have um a VA, um, and so you know, there's just two of us, but if I can simplify the back end and also, you know, I don't mind the marketing, but it's not my zone of genius. And if I can find a way in a system and uh, you know, and have as and have somebody that that is clearly very good at what they do to help me with that, that then means that I can do more channeling and I can, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. And I I love everything that you've been working on since we've started working together. In particular, I know that your big passion is Substack right now. Do you want to share with us? And and I'm like curious about how you were led to Substack and the expression and the opportunity for others as a marketing vehicle, as well as how you're going to use it to grow your business more. I think that'd be really interesting.

SPEAKER_00

Sure. I've got I've just got a stomachache. You okay? Leaving something there. Okay. Um Does that mean you you don't want to talk about this?

SPEAKER_01

We can edit this out.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, not at all. I think more of a physical. There's something being digested here, so let's see what see where that goes. Okay. So I've been I was interested in Substack and I opened my own Substack about three, two or three years ago, and I'd forgotten that I'd already launched one. So I go and start again, and I'm like,

Why Substack Works For Her

SPEAKER_00

somebody's got my book. Someone's looked in at me. So they call it investigating. I was like, oh boom, it's me.

SPEAKER_01

That's gold.

SPEAKER_00

No, it wasn't you, it was your spirit team.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Anyway, so they've now got two. Now, the reason for Substack Substack have been calling me for a while, and I I have um so I have a cancer moon in house eight, and my Lilith is in eight as well. So I'm having a very if I can if there's a sentence that describes, you know, if I say something in a sentence, that's not good enough for me. I need a paragraph, two paragraphs, three paragraphs. The substat to me is felt like a really beautiful place aside from like a traditional blog, and I was, you know, was blogging in the time over the time, but you know, it's a network. You know, you can share with others, it's a community, and I felt like that was a really good place to express myself, to really do more reclamation, and and it's just it's a beautiful vibe. Everybody's the pace is slower, it's calmer. Yeah, and I and I feel I gotta I have got quite burnt out from socials, particularly Instagram. I dip in and out of Instagram, yeah. You know, I'm one for trying anything, reels, carousels, you know, I'll give anything a try, but I just I just felt didn't feel good mostly around it. Whereas Substack I go in there follow what's lighting you up. I can go in there, I can write, I can do lives, I can do notes, which are essentially, you know, um posts. Yeah, mini mini stories, mini stories, yeah, mini stories and so if it it houses everything, and it's also subscription-based. So I'd spent quite a lot of time looking at Patreon and I'd had a search community for a while, and none of them really gelled in the way that I wanted, but some stackers really landed for me, and I'm thoroughly, thoroughly enjoying it. So amazing. There is I the rest of a store remember replay goes on there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Um, and you write beautifully, by the way, because I read your your yeah, I'm like, wow, you you write very powerfully.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, thank you. Thank you. So you know, I feel like it's it's the place where I express myself the fullest, where I feel most at home, where I feel like I'm able to express and it and it land, you know, I've spent a lot of had a lot of narrative in my life of, you know, oh just hurry up, or stop talking, or you know, so this, you know, I'm I'm recovering a lot of myself through through the Substack journey and I'm massively enjoying it. And I I've I felt like I didn't start it earlier because I some part of me didn't feel that I could commit to it fully, but now I'm there, I'm not, I can't wait to be in there like every day.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's brilliant. You know what? I I haven't gone down that path myself because I have like I at one point I wrote a newsletter once a week that was more that style, and I found that it would take me hours and hours, and then I didn't I didn't know that the juice was worth the squeeze, if I'm honest. I'm like for enough people, do enough people care? And so I have this bit of a shadow from that experience, and it doesn't mean I won't change my mind, but that's that that would be why that I haven't explored it much myself.

SPEAKER_00

Interesting. Yeah. Here's the thing. My so my Instagram followers would um, you know, there have been times when it's picked up some pace. For a while now, it's just, you know, I'm not on there consistently anyway, so the algorithm doesn't reward that. But it's it's been very slow going. Go to Substack and there's followers and subscribers every day.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. So there's definitely a lot of energy over there. It's it's you know, it's the the channel I would say that is becoming the one that people are most interested in getting onto. Uh and you know, clearly I'm not a leader in this area. Um if anything, I'm gonna be a follower. But it's it's also look, it's it's also uh I think what's if you I like I'm I I'm still lit up by what I'm doing until I get to the point where I am craving a different way of expressing myself, then you know, there's only a certain amount of energy.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yeah. And I think from a manifesting generator perspective, because we we like different formats, we like to dip in and out of different things, to have it all in one place, you know, is it's just so refreshing.

SPEAKER_01

It's so you sound satisfied by it.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I can channel, like I'll do like a monthly report, energy reports, or I might just channel a piece and I'll just channel it and and put it in there, and I've not gotta think about it. And they need to be paying me for this, promotion. Yes, are really good as well. So as soon as you do a video, they give you four or five or six different video, like short form assets. Wow, that's brilliant. Wow, simplicity and a time-cutting um perspective, it tick ticks the boxes on that as well. Amazing. Well, thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_01

You're welcome. I would love to share with my listeners all that you have to offer, your Substack in particular, as well as more information about working with you on the Akashic Records or in the Aligned Sovereign. So I'll get those links from you. Before we wrap up, is there anything else that is on your heart that you'd love to share?

SPEAKER_00

Where do I start? Yeah, no, you you were you are um as you were sharing that. I the message I got through was if there's anything you learned from from this today, this this message, this podcast, this beautiful podcast is please just be you. Please just be you. Yeah. If you're ever in any doubt, um that means that you're not being you.

SPEAKER_01

I think that is the perfect way to end the podcast and a message I feel as well.

Please Just Be You

SPEAKER_01

Thank you for sharing.

SPEAKER_00

You're so welcome. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thanks, sir. I'll see you soon.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks for tuning in to the Human Design for Marketing podcast. Make sure you hit that subscribe button, tell your friends, and extra brownie points, go leave me a review. I would so appreciate it. There are heaps more resources in the show notes. I can't wait to be back in your ears again soon. Bye, Panella!